Lawrence Hughes - you have a PM.
JV
dear friends,.
i would like to thank those who have helped me.
as a result, important legal precedents have been made and a lot of media coverage has been made which has exposed the watchtower society.
for those of you that have been following the ongoing story of the forced take over of the menlo park, california kingdom hall, please go to:.
http://ex-jw.com/fear-and-loathing-in-menlo-park.
i'm sorry, the article is still a little rough and still needs a lot of editing, but i wanted to get it up by today at the latest.
I am in the process of loading two large documents that have been submitted to the federal court. Unfortunately, my computer is really on its last legs and a new one that was suppose to arrive by Friday didn't make it. (I believe it was delayed due to the horrific tornadoes that rolled through the midwest USA early last week).
Check Ex-JW.com later Sunday night or early Monday for the new article. If it doesn't show, that means my computer expired. I'll try to keep everyone informed by updating JWN through my Droid.
If I can get these documents up this weekend, I guarantee that many of you who've been following this case will be quite suprised at how complete they are. They really fill in the details of the Menlo Park story better than I could in a lifetime.
Sweeney, you have a PM - or will have as soon as I can get it up.
JV
young people ask - mad sweeney's answers.
dealing with family.
1. how can i talk to my parents?.
That was a classic, Sweeney! I'd start reading JW books again if you were in charge of the Writing Department.
JV
the presidential race will be so much fun........ .
gov.
pawlenty was on this morning touting himself and i dozed off after 1 minute of his talking .
Rick Perry, governor of Texas? He was going to secede from the Union just before the election in 2010. The man, like Bush, is totally owned and operated by the Texas oil cartel.
JV
are jehovah's witnesses the only religion teaching the truth?.
the statement that only jehovah's witnesses are teaching the truth is an extraordinary claim.
such a claim would require extraordinary evidence.
Excellent comment, nugget!
Sometimes I wonder if these trolls even read what they've written. What exactly did 1pnt say?
I got this message through a contact form on my website. I read it every so often when there's nothing good on TV...
"Jehovah winnesses are THE true RElgion! I know cause they told me to. They are the onlie ones Jehovah talks to and it says so in the Watchtower. Sometimes in the Awake to! All other trinity and hellfire religions are false religions and thats because they dont understnd the bilbe like our slave class does. I know JW is the right religion becasuse I fell so good going to meetings and being around other Jehovah lovers. You are all ingorant and will miss out on lving for ever in God's only kindgom that came in 1914. I feal sorry for you, but I dont'"
So sad...
on the next cult free radio show we will discuss how and why the watchtower society controls more than just behavior, information, thoughts, and emotions.
they also control your local kingdom hall building, the local jehovah's witness congregation's bank account, and whatever other valuable assets they can get their corporate hands on.. how do they do it?
why do the local witnesses let them?
pdfs can be obtained at jw.org.... spiritual gem #1. perhaps witnesses should apply the standard the wt recommends for gathering information on the internet to wt publications; from page 4:.
(1) who published this.
material?
I don't know if anyone has brought this up so far, but I have two questions:
Scenario One:
What if there are not enough "anointed" to complete a full set of Governing Body members? What if all the remaining anointed ones are in rest homes or in hospice, or are Altzeimers patients, or are simply alive but otherwise brain dead? Will members of the Great Crowd of Other Sheep no longer be sheep, but actual members of the Slave Class?
Scenario Two:
What happens if the number of partakers (especially among the older brothers and sister who have been faithful for 25 years or more all decide that they are specially chosen, quit having visions of New Earth human existence and realize that they too have the heavenly hope) begin to climb each year to an unsupportable number, like say 100,000? Or maybe even 144,500? Then what is the Watchtower going to do? Say that the apostles and early Christians are really part of the Great Crowd because they didn't really understand the Bible as well as modern Jehovah's Witnesses do?
I am quite sure that at some point the Watchtower will come out and admit that the 144,000 is a symbolic number using 12X12X1000 to show that the number was special, like 7X70 and 7000 years, etc. I think they will make this change within the next few years. That will really be freeeeking NOO LITE!
JV
dear friends:.
is it just disorientation, getting old...?.
i awoke this morning and really did not know where i was.
well here goes... i apologize in advance if this turns into a long and disjointed rant, but i just have to begin typing in order to keep from exploding.
i realize that what im about to say could seriously jeopardize my anonymity, but i think ive reached the point that i just dont care.
i want this to be over.. let me explain what caused me to rip up a letter and get up and walk out in the middle of an elders meeting two weekends ago.. our boe has been embroiled in a nasty fight for the past 2 years over a certain brothers business dealings.
after such a traumatic experience in the jehovah's witness religion and reasoning on all other versions of religion, why do so many just jump ship into another religion offering the world but still delivering nothing!.
appreciate your comments,.
star tiger.
I am always surprised at how many former ex-JWs end up in evangelical community churches. Some of them even support and practice "shunning" of dissident members. This totally amazes me.
It's like trading white wine for red. It may look different and even taste different, but it will still make you drunk and kill you if you drink too much of it.
BRCI, and some other more prominent ex-JW groups, seem to push a more liberal Southern Baptist teaching and ethic, like Rick Warren of the Saddleback Church in Southern California. I've been to that church and I've read Warren's book, but it's still the same message that all evangelical churches push. While they really don't push their theology on stage, deferring to "feel good" music and "love your neighbor and be a good family member" sermons, when you go in for their "Bible studies," it's the same Trinitarian, Hellfire and brimstone, born-again theology most of us have realized to be the same warmed over Calvinistic crap we all tried to escape when we joined the Borg. An overweight, goateed, Hawaiian shirt wearing Bible thumper may be a more relaxed and entertaining religious leader, but he's still spouting the same fairy tales that conservative religous groups have taught for 600 years.
Is following Warren, Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen, Bob Schuller, Paul Crouch, and Benny Hinn the way to escape a religious cult. And the Mormons - I've known some very well - and they are for the most part good people, but they believe bigger fairy tales than the JWs could ever preach and their corporate structure is even more corrupt than that of the Watchtower.
When you finally escape from the cult, why in the world would you want to dive right back into another similar situation. Remember, William Miller (of the "Great Dissapointment"), the great-great grandfather of Jehovah's Witnesses - was a Baptist preacher.
JV